Chrysler Fiat the next Dieselgate?

Do you own a Diesel Jeep, Ram?

The news out of the EPA is the diesel emissions of the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Ram 1500 have similar CO cheating software to the VW, and as such will be fined over $4 Billion dollars.

The fact is the Jeep sold very few diesel vehicles BUT Dodge has had ongoing problems with their Ram Cummins/Fiat Diesel trucks going back to the 2007 release of the Cummins Diesel with the DPF.

After settling a class action lawsuit out of court on the 2007-2009, Dodge Ram 2500 and 3500, where owners were stuck trying to get blown turbos and other DPF issues fixed under warranty, the problem left 2010-2011 owners and unsuspecting 2nd owners of these vehicles stuck.  Many of these trucks were quietly bought back and others traded in as frustrated Dodge owners lost tens of thousands of dollars on trade. The secondary market swept up these “USED DIESEL DEALS” and the complaints continued. For those drivers using this Cummins diesel as a daily work/transportation vehicle, the constant stop and go idling causes the soot to build up. The DPF REgen never gets hot enough to burn it out, so the truck experiences failures.In 2012 Dodge attempted to correct the issue with an idle controller mounted on top of the engine in plain view of the owner. This seems to have cleared up many of the issues, but some complaints remained.


Enter FCA Dieselgate, the 104,000 2014-2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Ram 1500 diesel’s will get software upgrades as the EPA slaps FCA with a $4.6 BILLION dollar lawsuit. Allegedly the new software on the 2017 models can “fix” the problem in these now USED/Owner occupied models. Will it help or hurt MPG? Will the owners take them in, as many VW owners DID NOT?

Will FCA be required to offer owners a BUYBACK? Which cost VW $25 Billion and lots of future business. Many VW owners turning in high mile TDI Jetta and Passat models for crazy cash dollars, and then went elsewhere for their next car. We won’t know for sure til the word gets out.

There are several consumer class-action lawsuits against FCA going on right now about this issue, on the grounds of FRAUD… but is any Attorney actually addressing the dirty little secret of diminished value?  I will reach out to the former legal eagles and see what they have to say, so stay tuned for more news.

In the meantime, know this, FCA (Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram) have more recalls collectively, than any other car company, so getting in to get your truck computer flashed/fixed could be an issue.

And that issue could be confounded by the fact the dealers may not have the fix yet!


Usually diminished value comes into play when a car is crashed and repaired. This information is noted on a CARFAX or AUTOCHECK report, making the  next owner wary of the extent of the damage or repair. In the eyes of the Used Car buyer or dealer TRADE-IN manager, the “BAD” Carfax can reduce the value by as much as 20%.

If FCA follows other car makers with not addressing the “used car” inventory and having “unknown FIX” on the CARFAX, the diminished value of these trade-ins could mean serious losses for those owners. The agreement to the fine conditions between FCA and the EPA have not been made public yet, so stay tuned for more on this and how owners of these vehicles can be compensated going forward.

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